Monday, March 21, 2005

what to do

Brainstorming about my tendency to lose early in my live mid-limit hold'em sessions and win late...

Idea: Hunt at night.

My sessions usually start in the day or early evening and go into the night. I lose during the day and win later. Late at night there are more people drinking and more people who are stuck and trying to get even, so I have an easier time beating the loose drunks than the sober daytime regulars . Also, play tends to get shorthanded, which I consider a strength of mine, so maybe avoiding the full daytime tables is another reason to try this. Staying up all night was tough when I knew I had to go back to the 9 to 5 world, but that won't apply for a while.

Idea: Know everything about everyone

The longer I play, the more I know about the players in the game. Maybe my success at the end of sessions is because I've reached a tipping point of knowing enough about everyone and being able to use that information profitably. So the idea would be to find a game where its the same faces all the time so I don't have to spend the first 6 hours paying to learn about the strangers.

Idea: Centaurian Standard Time

Will Smith: Zed, don't you guys ever get any sleep around here?

Rip Torn: The twins keep us on Centaurian time, standard thirty-seven
hour day. Give it a few months. You'll get used to it... or you'll have a
psychotic episode.

- Men In Black

If I know I have to put in 6 or 10 hours before I start to really make money, maybe I should accept it and plan for marathon sessions. I haven't played longer than 12 hours in a row very often, and it gets to be a pretty weird feeling after a while.

Idea: Tight now, Loose later

I could just get super ultra tight for the first few hours. That way I'm only entering pots with by far the best of it, and I can focus on learning people instead of playing hands. I think that my style of play is usually best when I can be slightly on the loose side, but setting that up with several hours of extreme tightness could give me a very dangerous image. It could get pretty boring, but I think I have the discipline to pull it off. This means folding AJo, KQs, and 66 in early position in an unopened pot. It means folding QJs in middle position. It means folding AQs to most raises (which I often do anyway). It means mucking KTo or 98s on the button unless I have like 4 limpers ahead of me and the blinds look passive. It means looking down at AK in the big blind when there is an UTG raise and a late 3bet and tossing big slick into the muck. I'd make Rolf Slotboom proud.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks Rolf - 8 on the river comes to mind ...

8. Knowing the right play but not always making the right play; Points: 75

This is another intangible factor. Why do some players know what to do yet don’t always do it? Whatever the reason, always playing your best game and making the right plays is what gives you your edge; it’s what makes you the pro — so it’s what you should do.

Anonymous said...

i think perhaps your tendency to win late is linked to the fact that you prefer to play somewhat loose. it is difficult to profittably play somewhat loose without knowing much about the table and the other players. to maximize your profit while playing not tight, you need to have a feel for the game and the players. you need to know what people will play and what they will do in what situation and how you can manipulate them to do what you want (whether it be getting them to let you see a cheap card or extracting an extra bet from them when you have already made your hand).

i bet you are a strong player, too strong to mis-play something early on. so to you the same opportunity in hour 1 (which you fold because you are the superior card player) is not the same thing in hour 6 (when you can manipulate the table to GIVE you the correct odds to draw to your hand).

just a thought, but i notice the same thing about my play. i also notice that i play better slightly on the loose side. but that i always start pretty tight and probably am not getting the full value from my wins that i get after i have been playing a while.

i dont even know if any of this makes sense or not.

one other possible idea: the first few hours Erms is around screwing with the other players and jamming pots. he loses all his money in hour 3 and you begin to dominate. (just kidding, any cheap shot at erm i have to take after he emailed all my friends that mustache day pic...)