Friday, October 17, 2008

This is you

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nick decided while watching the last debate that he wants to register to vote so he can vote against McCain.

Maybe there really should be a "no" option. If everyone votes "no" to both of them, do we get some real choices? I guess actually there can be no "real choices" in our system b/c our system is set up to present the idea of choice without any possibility of actual choice.

And on another note, I was reading a whole bunch of mommy blogs the other day that all turned into pro-choice blogs after the whole McCain air-quoting women's health incident of the debate. People seem to genuinely not understand the importance of keeping abortion legal in our country and I think (I'm not sure) maybe you fit into that category. Like "with all the really important stuff going on, why does everyone care about abortion?" It totally infuriates me and indicates such a lack of understanding that goes along with not vaccinating your kids b/c those diseases don't even exist anymore mentality.

Anyway, you can count me among the totally mind-numbed by this election.

chuck zoi said...

I hope Nick strongly considers the argument against lesser-evilism as a justification for participating in a bullshit system.

I understand that abortion rights are about women's health, in that women seek out abortion services at the same rate regardless of legality, and it is the quality of the service (and thus the safety of the procedure) that suffers. So basically anti-abortion laws just kill women. Is there more to it than that?

Anonymous said...

You need more than that?

That is exactly right. In countries where abortion is illegal, tens of thousands (I've seen other estimates up to hundreds of thousands) of women die every year. Completely needlessly. I understand your arguments against voting completely and I really can't understand why I'm put in a position where I have to support a candidate solely to keep women alive.

I don't really think it's a matter of women's health. It's a human rights issue.

chuck zoi said...

I don't need more than that in order to be in favor of women having safe abortion services available to them; in fact I don't even need that much. What happens with a woman's body is her own damn business, and the state has no right telling her otherwise. That's the end of the story as far as I'm concerned.

But as far as driving me to the polls, I'd need much more. I'm not convinced that there's a huge difference between parties even on this issue, as far as actual outcomes. But, even if there were, I have to weigh it against other factors, notably the willingness of both parties to kill millions of people all over the world.

Anonymous said...

I see.